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| − | + | ==="At about the age of twelve years my mind become seriously imprest"=== | |
{{Epigraph|At about the age of twelve years my mind become seriously imprest with regard to the all importent concerns <del>of</del> for the wellfare of my immortal Soul which led me to searching the scriptures believeing as I was taught, that they contained the word of God...}} | {{Epigraph|At about the age of twelve years my mind become seriously imprest with regard to the all importent concerns <del>of</del> for the wellfare of my immortal Soul which led me to searching the scriptures believeing as I was taught, that they contained the word of God...}} | ||
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| − | + | ==="my intimate acquaintance with those of different denominations"=== | |
{{Epigraph|...thus applying myself to them and my intimate acquaintance with those of different denominations led me to marvel excedingly for I discovered that <ins>they did not <del>adorn</del></ins> <del>instead</del> of adorn<del>ing</del> their profession by a holy wal | {{Epigraph|...thus applying myself to them and my intimate acquaintance with those of different denominations led me to marvel excedingly for I discovered that <ins>they did not <del>adorn</del></ins> <del>instead</del> of adorn<del>ing</del> their profession by a holy wal | ||
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| − | + | ==="for I become convicted of my sins....I felt to mourn for my own sins and for the sins of the world"=== | |
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| − | + | ==="by searching the scriptures I found that mankind did not come unto the Lord"=== | |
{{Epigraph|...and by searching the scriptures I found that <del>mand</del> <ins>mankind</ins> did not come unto the Lord but that they had apostatised from the true and liveing faith and there was no society or denomination that built upon the gospel of Jesus Christ as recorded in the new testament...}} | {{Epigraph|...and by searching the scriptures I found that <del>mand</del> <ins>mankind</ins> did not come unto the Lord but that they had apostatised from the true and liveing faith and there was no society or denomination that built upon the gospel of Jesus Christ as recorded in the new testament...}} | ||
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{{Epigraph|...therefore I cried unto the Lord for mercy for there was none else to whom I could go and to obtain mercy and the Lord heard my cry in the wilderness...}} | {{Epigraph|...therefore I cried unto the Lord for mercy for there was none else to whom I could go and to obtain mercy and the Lord heard my cry in the wilderness...}} | ||
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{{Epigraph|nevertheless I pondered these things in my heart <del>about that time my mother and</del> but after many days I fell into transgression and sinned in many things which brought a wound upon my soul and there were many things which transpired that cannot be writen and my Fathers family have suffered many persicutions and afflictions and it—came to pass when I was seventeen years of age I called again upon the Lord and he shewed unto me a heavenly vision}} | {{Epigraph|nevertheless I pondered these things in my heart <del>about that time my mother and</del> but after many days I fell into transgression and sinned in many things which brought a wound upon my soul and there were many things which transpired that cannot be writen and my Fathers family have suffered many persicutions and afflictions and it—came to pass when I was seventeen years of age I called again upon the Lord and he shewed unto me a heavenly vision}} | ||
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Revision as of 19:13, 4 May 2024
Question: What differences are there between Joseph Smith's 1832 First Vision account and later accounts?
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- Religious revival
- Joseph's motivations
- Religious confusion
- Joseph's age
- Struggle with Satan
- Personage(s) seen
- Location of the vision
- Joining other churches
- New Dispensation?
- The wrath to come
- Persecution afterwards
- Historical sources
Question: What differences are there between Joseph Smith's 1832 First Vision account and later accounts?
Religious revival
"this was a grief to my Soul thus from the age of twelve years to fifteen"
Did Joseph's 1832 account not mention any religious revivals in his area?
Summary: A religious revival is not mentioned in Joseph Smith's handwritten 1832 First Vision account.Joseph's motivations
"At about the age of twelve years my mind become seriously imprest"
At about the age of twelve years my mind become seriously imprest with regard to the all importent concernsoffor the wellfare of my immortal Soul which led me to searching the scriptures believeing as I was taught, that they contained the word of God...
"my intimate acquaintance with those of different denominations"
...thus applying myself to them and my intimate acquaintance with those of different denominations led me to marvel excedingly for I discovered that they did notadorninsteadof adorningtheir profession by a holy wal and Godly conversation agreeable to what I found contained in that sacred depository...
"for I become convicted of my sins....I felt to mourn for my own sins and for the sins of the world"
Was Joseph's motivation in the 1832 account different than later accounts?
Summary: Joseph Smith's stated motivation for praying to the Lord changes between the first known account of the First Vision (1832) and the official version of it (1838).Religious confusion
"by searching the scriptures I found that mankind did not come unto the Lord"
...and by searching the scriptures I found thatmandmankind did not come unto the Lord but that they had apostatised from the true and liveing faith and there was no society or denomination that built upon the gospel of Jesus Christ as recorded in the new testament...
Question: Did Joseph Smith decide that all churches were wrong before he received the First Vision?
Question: How could Joseph Smith come to the conclusion that all churches were wrong on his own?
"I cried unto the Lord for mercy"
...therefore I cried unto the Lord for mercy for there was none else to whom I could go and to obtain mercy and the Lord heard my cry in the wilderness...
Joseph's age
"in the 16th year of my age"
Joseph Smith's 1832 First Vision account states he was 15 years old rather than 14
Summary: In Joseph Smith's 1832 First Vision recital he said that he was "in the 16th year of [his] age" when the manifestation took place but when he created the 1838 account he changed this information to say that he was "in [his] fifteenth year."Struggle with Satan
Why isn't the Prophet's struggle with Satan in the 1832 account?
Summary: Joseph Smith says in the official Church history account of the First Vision that directly before the theophany occurred he had a struggle with Satan. But this struggle is not mentioned in his 1832 recital of the experience.Personage(s) seen
"I saw the Lord"
Did Joseph Smith claim to see only one Personage in his 1832 vision account?
Summary: In the 1832 account of the First Vision—which is in the handwriting of Joseph Smith—it only says that Jesus Christ made an appearance to the Prophet; the Father is missing.Location of the vision
Is the 1832 vision set in heaven or on the earth?
Summary: There seems to be a discrepancy between the location of Deity in the Prophet's 1832 and 1838 First Vision accounts. The 1838 version says that the Prophet saw two Personages standing in the air above the earth, within his proximity. But the 1832 version is not so clear - it seems to locate Deity in heaven.Joining other churches
"thy sins are forgiven thee"
Did Joseph really not mention being forbidden to join other churches in 1832?
Summary: The 1832 First Vision account does not portray the Lord giving Joseph Smith an injunction against joining any church; it does not portray the Lord as announcing that all the churches were corrupt. These details do not show up until the 1838 account.Did Joseph Smith join other churches contrary to commandment in the First Vision?
Summary: Did Joseph Smith join the Methodist, Presbyterian, or Baptist churches between 1820 and 1830—despite the claim made in his 1838 history that he was forbidden by Deity (during the 1820 First Vision experience) from joining any denomination?New Dispensation?=
Question: Why doesn't Joseph Smith's 1832 First Vision account mention a "new dispensation"?
Summary: One critical author states, "Joseph [Smith] added new elements to his later narratives that are not hinted at in his earlier ones. His first vision evolved from a forgiveness epiphany [1832 account] to a call from God the Father and Jesus Christ to restore the true order of things [1842 account]."
"all those who believe on my name may have Eternal life"
Does the 1832 account say that eternal life is given to everyone regardless of church affiliation?
Summary: When Jesus Christ speaks to Joseph Smith in the 1832 First Vision account He says that all of those who believe on His name may have eternal life. Does this mean that one receives eternal life regardless of what church they are affiliated with?The wrath to come
"mine anger is kindling against the inhabitants of the earth"
Why does the 1832 account mention destruction of the wicked but the 1838 account doesn't?
Summary: One difference between the 1832 First Vision account and the official 1838 recital is that it portrays Jesus Christ as prophesying that He will return to earth quickly to destroy wicked mortals. The 1838 story makes no mention of the impending doom of this planet's depraved inhabitants.Persecution afterwards
"I pondered these things"
nevertheless I pondered these things in my heartabout that time my mother andbut after many days I fell into transgression and sinned in many things which brought a wound upon my soul and there were many things which transpired that cannot be writen and my Fathers family have suffered many persicutions and afflictions and it—came to pass when I was seventeen years of age I called again upon the Lord and he shewed unto me a heavenly vision
"I could find none that would believe"
Why was persecution for his vision absent in Joseph's 1832 account?
Summary: Joseph Smith's 1832 First Vision account does not say that he was persecuted for relating his spiritual manifestation to others.Historical sources
Source text of the 1832 First Vision account
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