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==Question: How is Mormon belief compatible with Isaiah's statement that beside the Lord "there is no God?"==
===These scriptures in Isaiah clearly are meant to assert the supremacy, authority, and superiority of Yahweh over not only over false idols but over all else, including real gods===

Some Christians claim that the Mormon doctrine of the [[Godhead_and_the_Trinity|Godhead]] and belief in [[Deification of man|theosis]] are not compatible with multiple statements in Isaiah that "beside [the Lord] there is no God." These passages include {{b||Isaiah|43|10-11}}; {{b||Isaiah|44|6,8}}; {{b||Isaiah|45|5-6}}; {{b||Isaiah|45|21-22}}; and {{b||Isaiah|46|9-10}}.

These scriptures in Isaiah clearly are meant to assert the supremacy, authority, and superiority of Yahweh over not only over false idols but over all else, including real gods.

The passages in Isaiah cannot be called upon to disprove LDS beliefs in separate divine beings in the Godhead or ''theosis''. Their main point is to encourage Israel to stop worshiping other divine beings or idols but to worship Yahweh alone (see {{b||Isaiah|41|29}}, {{b||Isaiah|42|8}},
{{b||Isaiah|43|10,12,24}}, {{b||Isaiah|44|8,9,10,17,19}},  {{b||Isaiah|45|9,12,16,20,22}}. 

Any other use of these passages distorts Isaiah's meaning and intent.

{{b||Isaiah|44|6}} reads:
: Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Passages such as Isa 44:6,8 and 45:5,21 that read "no God beside me" or a variation of that phrase are traditionally interpreted by mainstream anti-Mormons as meaning that other than Yahweh no form of deity exists at all, including exalted men. This type of interpretation at first seems obvious, but after considering similar passages in other parts of scripture it is clear that this interpretation is incorrect. 

For example, {{b||Isaiah|47|8-10|}} depicts the city of Babylon as saying:
: Therefore hear now this, thou that art given to pleasures, that dwellest carelessly, that sayest in thine heart, I am, and '''none else beside me'''; I shall not sit as a widow, neither shall I know the loss of children:

: For thou hast trusted in thy wickedness: thou hast said, None seeth me.  Thy wisdom and thy knowledge, it hath perverted thee; and thou hast said in thine heart, I am, and '''none else beside me'''.

These passages use the exact same phrase as Isa 44 and 45, yet they certainly do not exclude the existence of any city other than Babylon. The city of Ninevah would be very upset if this were the case, as Zephaniah depicts Ninevah in {{b||Zephaniah|2|15|}} as saying:

:This is the rejoicing city that dwelt carelessly, that said in her heart, I am, and '''there is none beside me''': how is she become a desolation, a place for beasts to lie down in!  every one that passeth by her shall hiss, and wag his hand.

Again it is clear that this phrase does not exclude the very existence of other cities. Using these parallel phrases makes it clear that Isaiah is not excluding the very existence of any other deity when he quotes Yahweh as declaring "there is no God beside me."  There are, in fact, several scriptures in the Old Testament that imply that Yahweh is in fact one of a number of Gods, albeit supreme. Compare the following passages from the KJV, NIV and ESV versions of the Bible:

*And the heavens shall praise thy wonders, O Lord: thy faithfulness also in the congregation of the saints. '''For who in the heaven''' can be compared unto the Lord? '''who among the sons of the mighty''' can be likened unto the Lord? God is greatly to be feared in the assembly of the saints, and to be had in reverence of '''all them that are about him'''. O Lord God of hosts, who is a strong Lord like unto thee? aor to thy faithfulness round about thee? (KJV {{b||Psalms|89|5-8|}})

*The heavens praise your wonders, O LORD, your faithfulness too, in the assembly of the holy ones. For who '''in the skies above''' can compare with the LORD? Who is like the LORD '''among the heavenly beings''' [fn. Lit "sons of god(s)]? In '''the council of holy ones''' God is greatly feared; he is more awesome than '''all who surround him'''. O LORD God almighty, who is like you? You are mighty, O LORD, and your faithfulness surrounds you (NIV Psalms 89:5-8).

*'''Among all the gods''' there is none like unto thee, O Lord; neither are there any works like unto thy works ({{b||Psalms|86|8|}}).

*God has taken his place in the divine council; '''in the midst of the gods''' he holds judgment (ESV Psalms 82:1)

*God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; '''he judgeth among the gods'''. (KJV {{b||Psalms|82|1|}})

These scriptures speak of divine beings, "gods" who are the "sons of god(s)" who are heavenly beings who dwell in the skies.  These cannot be idols or false gods. Yahweh dwells among them, reigns over them, and holds judgment in their midst. 

Another favorite scripture of the critics of the LDS doctrine of exaltation is {{b||Isaiah|43|10|}}. They seem to believe it contradicts this doctrine when it says:

:Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

Whether this passage is referring to false idols who represent deities that do not exist, or whether it refers to real divine beings who exist alongside and subordinate to Yahweh is not crucial for responding to this particular criticism. The passage specifically says "before" and "after" Yahweh. Since Yahweh has always existed, and since He will always exist no man can ever be exalted "before" or "after" Yahweh. All men who are exalted to godhood will be contemporaries of Yahweh, and will never precede nor follow Yahweh's existence. They will also become part of the divine council over which he presides.

:Wherefore, as it is written, [the inhabitants of the Celestial Kingdom] are gods, even the sons of God ([http://scriptures.lds.org/dc/76/58#58 D&C 76:58]).

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[[de:Frage: Wie passt der Glaube der Mormonen zusammen mit Jesajas Statement, dass es neben Gott keinen anderen Gott gibt?]]
[[es:Pregunta: ¿Cómo es la creencia mormona compatible con la declaración de Isaías que junto al Señor "no hay Dios fuera de mí?"]]