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==Question: What did William Stafford claim about Joseph Smith in the Hurlbut affidavits?==
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#REDIRECT[[The Hurlbut affidavits]]
===William Stafford claimed that Joseph could see "spirits" guarding treasures===
 
(uncle to C.R. Stafford)
 
 
 
*Claimed that the family of Joseph Smith, Sr. devoted a "great part of their time" to "digging for money."
 
*Claimed that he was told that Joseph Smith, Jr. could see "large caves" in "nearly all the hills in this part of New York."
 
*Claimed that Joseph could see "spirits" guarding great treasures.
 
*Claimed that Joseph Smith, Sr. told him that treasure could "sink" into the ground.
 
*Claimed that Joseph Smith, Sr. took one of his sheep on the pretense of using it to search for money by cutting its throat.
 
*Claimed that Joseph promised to show him the gold plates.
 
 
 
===The claim that the Smiths were lazy is belied by objective financial data showing them to be more hard-working than most of their neighbors===
 
 
 
The claim that the Smiths were lazy is belied by objective financial data showing them to be more hard-working than most of their neighbors.  The attacks on their industry date from after they had become notorious for the Book of Mormon and the Church, and probably spring from religious hostility more than truth.
 
 
 
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===William Stafford's story contradicts Peter Ingersoll's story===
 
 
 
William Stafford's claim that Joseph promised to show him the gold plates directly contradicts Peter Ingersoll's claim that Joseph confided to him that there were no plates.
 
 
 
Stafford claimed that "The two Josephs and Hiram, promised to show me the plates, after the book of Mormon was translated. But, afterwards, they pretended to have received an express commandment, forbidding them to show the plates."<ref>"Testimony of William Stafford," ''Mormonism Unvailed'', 240.</ref>
 
 
 
Ingersol,on the other hand, said that Joseph confided to him that "he had no such book, and believed there never was any such book."<ref>"Testimony of William Stafford," ''Mormonism Unvailed'', 236.</ref>
 
 
 
===Stafford's oldest son John: "I have heard that story [about the black sheep] but don't think my father was there at the time they say Smith got the sheep"===
 
 
 
Stafford's oldest son John would later say "I have heard that story [about the black sheep] but don't think my father was there at the time they say Smith got the sheep.  I don't know anything about it....They never stole one [a sheep], I am sure; they may have got one sometime....I don't think it [the story of the sheep] is true.  I would have heard more about it, that is true." <ref>William H. Kelly, "The Hill Cumorah, and the Book of Mormon," ''Saints' Herald'' 28 (1 June 1881): 167; cited in {{EarlyMormonDocs|vol=2|start=121|end=122}}  The material removed by ellipses consists of questions being asked by the interviewer.</ref>
 
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[[Category:No Man Knows My History]]
 
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[[pt:Pergunta: O que William Stafford reclamar sobre Joseph Smith nos depoimentos Hurlbut?]]
 

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  1. REDIRECTThe Hurlbut affidavits