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The following statement is from a hostile, third-hand source in late 1850:
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John A. Clark, a former pastor who considered Joseph Smith a fraud and the Book of Mormon “an imposture,” states that he heard a "gentleman in Palmyra" repeat something Harris had said,
 
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On one occasion, a sensible and religious gentleman in Palmyra put the following question to Harris: 'Did you see these plates?' Harris replied that he did. 'But did you see the plates and the engravings on them with your bodily eyes?' Harris replied,' Yes, I saw them with my eyes; they were shown unto me by the power of God, and not of man.' 'But did yon see them with your natural, your bodily eyes, just as you see this pencil-case in my hand? Now say no or yes to this.' Harris replied, 'I did not see them, as i do that pencil-case, yet I saw them with the eye of faith; I saw them just as distinctly as I see anything around me, though at the time they were covered over with a cloth.'<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=NXzQAAAAMAAJ&lpg=PA406&ots=XhCR8inBiq&dq=%22martin%20harris%22%20%22pencil%20case%22&pg=PA406#v=onepage&q=%22martin%20harris%22%20%22pencil%20case%22&f=false "Origin and History of the Mormonites,"] ''The Eclectic Magazine of Foreign Literature, Science, and Art'', September to December 1850.</ref>
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To know how much this testimony [of three witnesses] is worth I will state one fact. A gentleman in Palmyra, bred to the law, a professor of religion, and of undoubted veracity told me that on one occasion, he appealed to Harris and asked him directly,-”Did you see those plates?Harris replied, he did. “Did you see the plates, and the engraving on them with your bodily eyes?Harris replied, “Yes, I saw them with my eyes,-they were shown unto me by the power of God and not of man.” “But did you see them with your natural,-your bodily eyes, just as you see this pencil-case in my hand? Now say no or yes to this.Harris replied,-”Why I did not see them as I do that pencil-case, yet I saw them with the eye of faith; I saw them just as distinctly as I see any thing around me,-though at the time they were covered over with a cloth.<ref>“Martin Harris interviews with John A. Clark, 1827 & 1828,” ''Early Mormon Documents'' 2:270. Also cited in [http://books.google.com/books?id=NXzQAAAAMAAJ&lpg=PA406&ots=XhCR8inBiq&dq=%22martin%20harris%22%20%22pencil%20case%22&pg=PA406#v=onepage&q=%22martin%20harris%22%20%22pencil%20case%22&f=false "Origin and History of the Mormonites,"] ''The Eclectic Magazine of Foreign Literature, Science, and Art'', September to December 1850.</ref>
 
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Martin Harris: "I did not see them, as i do that pencil-case, yet I saw them with the eye of faith"

Parent page: Martin Harris/Witness to the Book of Mormon

"I did not see them, as i do that pencil-case, yet I saw them with the eye of faith"

John A. Clark, a former pastor who considered Joseph Smith a fraud and the Book of Mormon “an imposture,” states that he heard a "gentleman in Palmyra" repeat something Harris had said,

To know how much this testimony [of three witnesses] is worth I will state one fact. A gentleman in Palmyra, bred to the law, a professor of religion, and of undoubted veracity told me that on one occasion, he appealed to Harris and asked him directly,-”Did you see those plates?” Harris replied, he did. “Did you see the plates, and the engraving on them with your bodily eyes?” Harris replied, “Yes, I saw them with my eyes,-they were shown unto me by the power of God and not of man.” “But did you see them with your natural,-your bodily eyes, just as you see this pencil-case in my hand? Now say no or yes to this.” Harris replied,-”Why I did not see them as I do that pencil-case, yet I saw them with the eye of faith; I saw them just as distinctly as I see any thing around me,-though at the time they were covered over with a cloth.[1]

Notes

  1. “Martin Harris interviews with John A. Clark, 1827 & 1828,” Early Mormon Documents 2:270. Also cited in "Origin and History of the Mormonites," The Eclectic Magazine of Foreign Literature, Science, and Art, September to December 1850.